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The Koran is a book, and that book says that if you are a follower of the book you will do what that book says when the circumstances of your life bring what that book mandates into play. Therefore, because the Koran strongly advocates the murder of innocent human beings, potentially all Muslims are murderers, some might not be, but only God would know that for sure. From our point of view, anyone who holds that book, the Koran, to be perfect, can change into a murderer any moment. Even if she can't read. Even if she is very mentally retarded, because someday someone who understands the Koran is going to explain it to them! Someone like Ben laden, a man who understands exactly what the Koran says perfectly - so, I ask you, why would anybody, anywhere, ever trust a Muslim not to be a murderer?

Excellent post!

"Can any Muslim from the Ummah circulate or settle freely in any Arab or Islamic country? Does any country in the Arab world extend this facility to the Muslims? Sudanese, Egyptians, Moroccan, Pakistanis, Indonesians, Malaysians.. etc, go to their rich brethren to share in the petro-dollar led boom in the Gulf. How many of these fellow Muslims are allowed to settle down in countries like Saudi Arabia (the land of the religion of love), the UAE, Qatar, Oman, Bahrain, and Kuwait. The answer is, in none of them! So much for the Ummah.

"The Muslim brothers from other countries who go there in droves can only work there, and when they are out of work, they are repatriated to their country of origin."

I heard that long ago, but had forgotten it!

Where are the Rambos, the Terminators, best described as the John Waynes among us? They are out there all over the place but they are being obstructed, an obstruction coming from surprising sources. Using movie analogy I liken it to The Bridge on the River Kwai. Two parts of the same side, one trying to blow the bridge, the other trying to build it. The imprisoned bridge building Colonel does what he does to prove he is better than the enemy, for the morale of his small group of men. He doesn’t realize that he is expendable, his welfare and the welfare of his captured men is not more important than the cause he and they fight for. He has lost track of the ultimate goal, victory, he is operating as if the war has already been decided and he is the winner. He has forgotten that the situation is still in doubt. It should be noted that the last thing the colonel says as he falls on the plunger, roughly, is… my God, what have I done? In bollywood you can do that, I don’t think we want to have to rely on dumb luck or bollywood in real life though. This is one excellent site, keep up the fight. Remember that in the movie the bridge was blown, all but one of those “Dukes” gave their life in that effort. In modern movie jargon, for those who value liberty and justice for all, Live Free or Die Hard.

I have great respect for library books. For junk books I own, I fight with the writers. The GREATEST junk book is the Quran !! I write in MY copy that Muhammad is a PERV. I have underlined in blue the JUNK SCIENCE such as the world in FLAT, or that God created seven heavens! !! I have written out the NICENE CREED (A. D.325) on its pages. I just wonder what a Muhammaden would do if he found MY copy. Start a riot or maybe ask for a fatwa. I have not found a live Muhammaden to argue with, so I argue with MY copy of the BOOK OF LIES, and post my comments on this site. Also I have redacted "The Holy" as a perfix to the Quran, and some pages have blue a STAR OF DAVID upon them !!!

william beaujeu You needn't bother trying to figure out what Mohammad would do to you if he found out what you have done to the living and perfect and absolutely divine Koran! He would Kill you after much torture, and then he would send you to Hell to be boiled in human excrement forever and forever (if you believe the books the Muslims love). But, do I detect in you post that you disagree with what I said up there in the first post? I said, "The Koran is a book, and that book says that if you are a follower of the book you will do what that book says when the circumstances of your life bring what that book mandates into play. Therefore, because the Koran strongly advocates the murder of innocent human beings, potentially all Muslims are murderers, some might not be, but only God would know that for sure. From our point of view, anyone who holds that book, the Koran, to be perfect, can change into a murderer any moment. Even if she can't read. Even if she is very mentally retarded, because someday someone who understands the Koran is going to explain it to them! Someone like Ben laden, a man who understands exactly what the Koran says perfectly - so, I ask you, why would anybody, anywhere, ever trust a Muslim not to be a murderer?" So, why would you wonder what he would do unless you somehow disagree with the above?

Well daralharb - I hope you are right, but if you talk to these Musbots, you will find that they really believe that when they die they get to spend all day and all night, forever, popping 72 cherries in 24 hours. That's three an hour! And, presumably, the possessors of the now popped cherry, will scream and cry like all nine year old girls would do - sex with blood and children screaming and crying, What could be better? This reward will drive them to conquer, and when they are conquered they will lay low, like they have done for the past 300 years, until they get a windfall, and then the delicious thought of the 72 nine year olds bleeding will cause them to rape and conquer and die again and again and again - there is only one solution...

Muslims will soon control Europe because Europeans refuse to have children. The birthrate is so low in all of Europe that there are not enough people born each year to pay taxes or replace the people who die off each year. That's why European governments let in Muslim immigrants. They need the workers, to keep the economy and those fat European pensions going, for the readers of this blog. Readers like you!! Their Muslim religion says for them to have lots of children, so they do, and by the end of this century, the Muslim population of Europe will be over 200 million. Right now, it is 40 million. According to Canadian writer Mark Steyn, author of America Alone, European populations are crashing because Europeans are aborting all their babies. Europe will be Muslim very soon, sometime toward the end of this century. Europe should blame itself for this, don't blame Muslims. You are the people refusing to have families. You are the people killing all your babies, in abortion clinics. There have been more than 50 million abortions in Europe, during the last 40 years. That's why Europe will be Muslim. YOU killed your children. Don't blame them. Muslims come to your country for work, to make up for the children you killed with a coat hanger.

TIM BITTS ! I, Hal, do love you! At last, a teller of the Bitter truth - cold bitter truth - they are baby murderers! In fact, there is no other murder as Chicken-s**t as the violent murder for money and convenience of a new baby, peacefully asleep in its most sanctified and holy bed - and, there is no more meditated kind of murder on the face of the earth! The mothers hired a hired murderer to kill a baby in their womb because they didn't want to have a baby in their arms - how to kill this baby before you might have to hold it? Kill it in the womb! pretend that you didn't know it was a baby! Maybe it would have been a dog, or a cat? But wasn't it already a baby? Science and logic and common sense shout yes, and if you say NO, everyone really knows that this "NO" is lying, willful ignorance - and that you are a cold blooded murderess. But, though we are murderers, and we might deserve the Islamic plague, we are getting more than our share of Muslims, who are even more inclined to murder than we are. We are effete and weak, and we have lost our will to live as a people - but, still, how can we be so insane, and how can you expect anyone to be so insane as to import huge and disporportionate number of people into our countries who have a book which clearly tells them that it is a good and holy thing to kill completely innocent people? Yes, you are correct, we are mad to kill our own babies and then reduce them to various medicines which we consume - we kill and eat our own babies! However, bad as that is, we simply can not be expected to double our madness by letting our crooked politicians take huge amounts of oil money bribes, and fill our counties up with people who consider murders of innocent people holy, and clearly called for by God Almighty Himself! Some of us have been loudly telling the truth about abortion since they legalized it in 1972, and we few have spent time in jail and exhausted our savings to stop baby murder - I'm one of them, and we certainly do not deserve to have to now deal with a gigantic influx of Potential Murders and suicide bombers - real strong potential, as they have a magic book that calls for it! Please say you will help us fight against these savages. We need everybody - whose to say why so many of us are insane? One thing you learn from watching nature, only sick mammal kill their own babies. But, I mean it, I really love you.

Thanks for your comments. I will check in from time to time. Interesting blog. I just stumbled upon it, looking for something else. The relationship between Islam and the West is one of the things that interests me, and I think it will be the key defining political story of this coming century, for much of the world.

I always find it interesting that the people who are the touchiest about mistreating animals are often the people most likely to murder a fetus. I blame the men who get these women pregnant, as well as the weak women. Most men in Europe are sick. They have no moral beliefs, or beliefs in things greater than their petty little desires and lives and egos. They live tiny, self-aggrandizing lives of no consequence. Very sad. And their empty moral vacuum influences their women, who also see no point in life, other than their vain desires, and when a baby comes, unexpectantly, they kill it, out of moral emptyness, lest it interfere with a weekend in the country. Then, coming back into the city, they wonder why so many immigrants show up. These are clueless, murdering, moral midgets, whose cold lifeless cowardice does not allow them to believe in anything greater than themselves. They break the first commandment, on a daily basis, as they see themselves as gods. These petty fools, and I see them everywhere, think themselves little emperors, or better, and anything that interferes with that role, like a baby, must be snuffed out. No other continent is as lacking in religious belief as Europe. Without faith, there is only death. Without faith, there is no hope. Without hope, only a rope and a chair await us all. European man is the sick man of the world, with a desperately wicked and depraved soul, who is so far gone, he cannot even sense evil when he see it in front of himself, or it's in the mirror, looking back at him, or even as he pays money to a doctor, to chop his baby to bits and pieces. The whirling blades of the abortionists deadly tools, slicing up his children, do not move his soul, or even bother him. He has lost his way. That's why abortion happens. That's why Europe will become Muslim. "The wages of sin is death." Europe is undergoing a cultural death, and is too stupid and morally bankrupt to realize it. Christianity and faith have died in Europe. Without faith, a people die. And that is exactly what is happening. A people, and a way of being, are dying. Muslim immigration is not the real problem, but rather a symptom, of a deeper disease of the European soul. A symptom of a black, lifeless hole in the middle of the European soul. European Man has become Death, destroyer of babies, killer of the innocent. No longer, like his ancestors, the brave and noble protector of women and children, he is now the destroyer of life. It will be men that change this, if it happens, or Europe will perish before the sword of Islam, once Muslims have the numbers. Throughout history, Islam and Christianity have warred. The remnants of that struggle can be found in the remaining populations of Muslims in what used to be called Yugoslavia, and also in tiny Christian populations in many Arab countries. Anytime, in that 1000 year long struggle, that Islam has had the advantage, had the numbers, Islam has brought the sword. Europe has forgotten it's history. Islam has not. Osama bin Laden remembers, and says so in most of his videos. Islam is a debauched faith, concocted by a pedophile, and it destroys life, and creative thought, and leads men to reckless, prejudicial hatred and contempt for others, and is incompatible with the modern world. The modern world will destroy Islam, or Islam will destroy the modern world. Destroying Islam can only come from a God-inspired power that is greater than Islam. The Christian faith is infinitely greater than Islam, because it is true. Islam is a sham, and false through and through, and not a true inspiration from God, but a false faith, an anti-Christ spoken of, by the true Lord, in the Book of Revalation. Therein lies salvation, of men, and Europe.

Interesting to see all the different reactions to the indeed phoney idea that Islam is supererior. The more surprising however to read that the superiority of another religion is the right answer or that pro-life is to save us from the Islam-threat. The only answer to Islam is to use common sense and intellectual integrity. Nonsense is nonsense and scientific arguments are better than religious ones; the last kind never has any proof other than the belief itself which makes it an non-logical system that cannot be falsified. Any belief is as good as another and the assertion that belief says that the moon is made of cheese is void as long as no one could reach the moon. By he real proof we know how things are.

Hans ! Very interesting, but we are just pointing out that abortion is Murder - that is just plain scientific logic and truth: No need to bring up religion at all. When is a baby not a baby? It seems to us that what you want to say, indeed, the only thing you could possibly say, is that the baby not born is not a person, therefore not human, therefore unmurdererable! But you will not say that because it is such an illogical argument that your fine scientific mind will not countenance it. But, bringing up religion is unnecessary - either a baby is not human, not a person, or killing one of them when it is not necessary is a clear case of cold blooded murder. It is your science,Sir, that I am attacking, not your religion. You do not talk like a man who has fully embraced scientific discipline. A human baby, Sir, is fully one of us - there never will be a person ever again like that person would have been - at conception, the person was immediately present with all his or her genes completely intact. In short, a baby is a baby not matter how small, and no matter how unscientific is the attitude of a neurotic murderer in conscious or unconscious denial! Muslims also say that an unborn baby is not a baby - I'm quite sure though, that you do not agree with them in your heart.

The west is killing itself on many fronts to keep the multicultural and politiacl correct pipedreams fired up.Take another toke and watch the world go up in smoke.

We kill our own with abortion.So we can import those who do not belong here.

We fund terrorism.Because for some reason it is in most peoples heads that Islams problems are caused by us.Which it is only in the way that we allow it to survive and to continue.

We import those that wish to kill us,not contribute.Someone mentioned importing to keep the industrialization going.this isn't happening.those that are imported only contribute to the problem as they do not wish to contribute but only to take.

The answer to all the problems are very simple.When it comes to trying to figure out how to sttop Islam,besides just bombing the death cult into oblivian.the other answer is to actually apply all these laws that our preciuous leaders have spent countless hours and untold sums of money to pass.Let them not be just mere trophies for the politicians and good marks by thier names in the pages of history.I think that if thet decide to pick up that history book these politicians love to yap about so much they will see that it is becomming a history book for the future of Islam to show next generations of terrorists,murderers,thieves,rapists and pedophiles how the west was lost.In doing so i wish every self serving politician loser thier day before God a speedy and most painfull one.

Hans:

Science won't save you, from Islam, or death. Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, for a reason. Nature abhors a vacuum, especially a spiritual one. There has never in history been a long term, sustainable culture, that was not religious at it's core. From your comments, I think you are a scientific materialist, much as I was, years ago. You believe only in what you can prove. Scientific materialism, tied to atheism, and doing away with religious belief, was tried in the Soviet Union, and it failed miserably. That's one reason the Soviet Union collapsed. It was a failure, as a system for organizing humans. You like proof? You like science? You probably like reading about human evolution. So do I. I read Darwin's Origin of the Species when I was twelve years old. One thing I am convinced of, based on the fact that every culture in human history has had it's deity, or god, is that belief in God is not only true, but it is also a social evolutionary adaptation. Why else would it exist in every culture? Why else would any culture that does away with God self-destruct?

Educate yourself, my friend. Try reading "The God Gene" by Harvard biologist Dean Hamer, or google The God Gene and Time Magazine, for a quick overview. He believes, as I do, that the reason religion keeps showing up in virtually every human population, is that it is essential to our survival. Evolution works on many levels, not only on individuals, through natural selection. It works on groups of people. Religion is, among many things, an evolutionary mechanism of support, to sustain life. Religious people are more likely to survive, genetically, because of their supporting belief system. It gives individuals more of a reason to live, and perpetuate life. Without it, more individuals die, and eventually cultures die, as Europe is, right now. Less religious people generally don't survive, genetically, very long.

Hans, you say, the answer to the threat of Islam is to use "common sense and intellectual integrity." What the hell does that mean? That's a pretty empty statement.

You seem to be someone who needs proof of things. All right. To me, in scientific terms, there is an obvious causal relationship between a lack of religious belief, and the rise of Islam in Europe. I think this can be proved, enough to satisfy any scientifically minded person. You can look for the proof yourself, I won't do research for you, but this is what I have found, in reading about the subject:

America is the most religious, advanced industrial country in the world. It also has the highest birthrate of any developed country in the world, and it's population growth, at 2.2 children per family, is enough to regenerate it's population. America is not only the most religious advanced country, and the only advanced country that is sustaining it's population, but if you look at every single European country, they all have declining populations, and all have low levels of religious beliefs. Countless emperical studies have shown an inverse relationship between religiosity and family size. That is, the more religious people are, the more likely they are to have children. Inversely, the less religious people are, the less likely they are to have families.

This is true, even among American states. Steve Sailor has done studies on that. It shows that the 50 American states that are more likely to be religious have larger family sized than the states where religion is at lower levels. Studies in France have shown that the more conservatively religious a woman is, the larger her family size, and a disproportionately large share of the next generation of French children will come from religious French women. This is also true within religion. Comparative religious studies have shown that overly liberal religions, where religious belief is watered down to a series of politically correct liberal platitudes, tend to be religions that die out very quickly. And the inverse is true. The more conservatively religious the denomination, the more likely the religion is, to be growing, demographically. For instance, in North America, Mormons have very conservative religious beliefs, and they are the fastest growing faith. The United Church is the most liberal of all churches, in my birthplace, which is Canada, and the are closing a church a week, due to declining numbers. The same is true within Jewish populations. The more devout Jews have more children.

Europe, on the other hand, is in a death spiral. It's birthrate is so low, it's cultures will die, very quickly, and if you are a young person, you will probably live to see a lot of this. This is not speculation, but fact. It is happening right in front of your eyes, and you don't see it. Do some research, if only in pure mathematics. Find out what the numbers say. Read Mark Steyn's book, America Alone. European countries have populations that are collapsing at a rate greater than what happened, historically, during the Black Plague, during the Middle Ages. No population in human history has ever recovered from the population collapse happening right now, in Europe. It is not a coincidence that this is happening at the very time that scientific materialism is the dominant worldview, in Europe.

As to abortion, I urge you to look at proof, in scientific terms. Read about it, and look for evidence. Look at it purely from a biological point of view. Unborn babies have nerve ending just like you do, and when the knife comes for them, they recoil, in terror and pain, just like you would, if someone tried to murder you. There are plenty of videos on the internet, of live abortions. Have a look at them. See if you don't finally agree, abortion is murder, and a mass genocide is happening in Europe, right under your nose. It is worse than what Europeans did to the Jews, when they lined them up for the gas ovens, only a few years ago. A people capable of murdering innocent children will not survive long in history.

Nature will do away with such a people. That is what is happening to Europeans, right now. Nature is weeding them out of evolutionary history, as being unfit. They are unfit because they are part of a culture of death, as the Pope put it. They murder their own children, and don't bother keeping enough around, for their culture to survive their own mortality.

That's why the future belongs to Islam, and that's why Europe belongs to Islam, and they will own it, soon. Unlike Europeans, Muslims don't murder their own children. It's very simple, my friend. Without enough children to replace existing populations, when they die, European culture will die. There can be no European culture without Europeans.

How much more simply can I put it?

So, if Europe is not happy that Islam is taking over, it's very simple: Stop killing all your children.

why is life better'n death? Could life exist with free will, without death? No, it could not! Not at all! Not any!
without death, they would have no children at all - only the prospect of disappearing into absolutely nothingness makes then procreate - otherwise they would be too selfish to share one minute of their pleasure with someone who will not be able to give back for years and years - but birth control is death, death, death, Just like you always knew it was, in your heart, you always knew - but denial stood in the way of scientific proof, so now God has allowed the Muslims to come and prove it to you most conclusively.